Appeals to Values Deemed Uncivilised

This discussion came up as a follow to the proposition above, as opposed to "appeals to reasonable arguments deemed civilised." It was thereafter raised by someone that values and reason must co-exist. My response:
Actually reason is just a form of order imposed upon values... a computational framework over the animal bits, if you will. By contracting the discussion to an aphorism, I'm just saying that the animals don't matter, and the computers do. But most people are a bit of both. ;) [Don't mind me, and my politics.]

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