On the 'Normal' Frequencies of Suicidal Thought Varieties

 From the 'Your Therapist Needs a Therapist' FB group ... OP posts a meme :

... therapist : any suicidal thoughts?

... patient : only the normal amount.

... therapist : the normal amount is zero

... patient : ( monkey face giving a side-eye over their shoulder ) 

My initial comment ( edited for clarity ) : 

... "Thoughts WITH high intent to execute, WITHOUT reason," is associated with a LOW normal frequency.

... "Thoughts WITH high intent to execute, WITH reason," is associated with a HIGHER normal frequency.

... "Thoughts WITHOUT high intent to execute," is associated with an EVEN HIGHER normal frequency.

... All different stats

Another commentor : 

do you have any literature on this?

Me : 

unfortunately, no. Lay person here, not certified. Could sit down to Google it, but I haven't.

The intuition is simply what I understand that societies consider to be disordered or not.

• 1. Having the capability to simulate a murder (self or others) isn't criminal, and therefore there are few laws limiting the freedom of thought about this.
• 2. Having the incapability to (simulate without subsequently reifying) however is criminal, but we generally don't have brain scanners to read what people think, so we only judge them by what they do.
• 3. Back to therapy ... this is the slow method of brain scanning.
• 4. There are good arguments that sometimes it is ethical to commit murder (self or others). But that's into the realm of ethics, less about mental health.
• 5. After all what is considered health or orderliness is some synthetic norm agreed on by a community, which we codify into arbitrary norms and laws.

Plot twist : psychology invented 'normal' ( I kid, I kid )